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Darkassassin07SUBSCRIBE and get a fresh toilet seat every month!
âFreshâ in this context meaning you have to work out the defect again wherein it winds up pinching you.
Obligatory donât shop Amazon
Please do share the seemingly mythical ethical source of needed products at an even vaguely competitive price, which weâre all forced to consider due to our wages being squeezed to shit by those with too much money already.
What, like food and computers and bowls and stuff? Just, like, stores. For food I buy bulk dry ingredients, and I like second-hand places for electronics and house things. Not trying to be glib. Maybe Iâm just lucky.
Iâm sorry if Amazon is your only option. My comment is only directed at people with the capacity and interest in avoid them.
DaveThey probably wouldnât do it if it didnât work. My guess is some proportion of people didnât like the one they got and will try to buy another, so they capture this by sending an email. Basically free for them to send an email so it doesnât matter if itâs only 0.01% of people that it works on.
Every time I see those ridiculous âhave another one!â ads, Iâm happily reminded that, well, if thatâs the best they can do with all the technology and the money they have, there is still hope.
More likely they have hard numbers saying that for most of their products this approach work, and why bother having a button letting people tell the algorithm they have something already? All that would do is expose them to fewer ads. And you never know, maybe one will eventually give in and buy another toilet seat just in case!
On the contrary, you should expect them to put more effort into using that stuff in ways that donât benefit you than in ways that do.
Letâs go with one example. Thereâs this United Payments Interface (UPI) app called Google Pay.
- They let you add a comment when paying.
- go to Google Checkout and download previous years payment data to help with accounting and you donât get the comments along with it. You have to go into the app and open each entry, one-by-one to see what was what.
They keep the timing information of when you pay.
They started removing handy features to access timeline features from desktop.
Remember when they had a button you could push and it would just order individual items for you? Presumably with no further authentication?
Well, I just learned that while they are discontinued, you can apparently buy an instructional audiobook on them. Possibly Iâm being obtuse, but from that listing it seems like it also includes a set of the buttons as well.
I still see that button (in the mobile version, anyway).
Whatâs more alarming is that Iâve run across several things akin to toilet seats (things you probably buy like once every 20 years) that have defaulted to the âSubscribe and saveâ option. I donât know if this something the seller does or if AI is flagging things for them, but itâs insidious.
If youâre not paying attention, you can wind up an accidental collector of toilet seats.
Since moving to my current house ~3 years ago Iâve had to replace every toilet seat at least once (the state of them when I moved in was pretty abysmal) and two twice.
Perhaps becoming an accidental collector of toilet seats wouldnât be the worst thing to happen to me.
You know you wanna subscribe-n-save
Have you tried using it harder?
âWith a little effort itâs a consumable articleâ, Amazon probably.
All products are consumable products if the quality is bad enough.
I wish there was a dummy on that toilet⌠then I could make an explosive diarrhea joke.
Best I found:
Close enough.
Answering that requires some calibration. Whatâs the middle ground between explosives and a healthy diet? Because I suspect that âI eat nothing but taco bellâ qualifies as âharderâ.
I bought a wedding ring on Etsy and I get like four emails a week for wedding ringsâŚ
Relevant xkcd
The chart suggests that some time late into the day before yesterday, they had about -0.3 husbands.
It would be really nice if you could mark suggestions as no longer needed or purchased.
You used to be able to mark it as a gift or just âdo not recommendâ ⌠I used this feature for several years. Is that not a thing anymore?
I prefer this regular reminder that they are a shower of incompetent wankers.
Itâs just a computer following an algorithm. An algorithm that has been found to increase sales.
Why not hang some on the wall as decorative items? Like those stuffed animal heads some people have on their walls?
Stop using amazon
I feel like a lot of people who say this donât realize how difficult this actually is for many people who live in different circumstances to them.
If you, like many, live in some urban sprawl ass area, Amazon has become the âweird part/replacement/too unique for physical stores but costs 5 times the amount shipping it in from somewhere elseâ central.
Itâs also often more convenient than some other options while being ethically just about on par.
Its like, I can buy this thing from the walmart family, the loblaws family or jeff bezos.
They all have their evil, and it rotates from time to time who is taking the cake.
Like itâs certainly a consideration, like Iâll sometimes pick a slower option just to not buy from amazon, but then its likeâŚ. its from Bestbuy. How much better is Bestbuy to Amazon? or Newegg?
I mean, tbh the whole inauguration has certainly knocked Amazon down a few pegs for sure, so I guess this is sort of a pre that bias.
My point is, there is a shit ton of things any one person can be doing, and different things are more or less important to different people, so do what you can, and donât expect perfection of yourself, because there will be things you do (if youâre a person that tries) that the person barking at you for not being perfect in some other aspect will be doing and wonât even be aware of what else you do.
It also doesnât have to be all or nothing. Even if there is some specific issue that keeps you bound to Amazon, seeking out alternatives the rest of the time is still an improvement.
I know someone who has extreme difficulty taking pills and who frequently needs pain relievers to function. The only thing they have ever found that works for them is the Walmart brand Tylenol (aka tiny lol). They donât buy anything else from Walmart on principle, but thos pills are a necessity.
That said, in my experience at least, while Amazonâs shopping experience has gotten significantly worse over time, smaller local and regional businesses have been making things much better over the last few years. Itâs easier to find what I need on the website of my local hardware store than Amazon, with prices that are as good or better on most things, and without the glut of trash items clogging my search. I can even get 2 hour delivery if I need it. I canât get a fucking pizza delivered to me but I can have a socket wrench and a change of underwear here at a momentâs notice.
I canât say that there is a better option available to everyone for anything they need. But I would bet that there are good alternatives available the vast majority of the time.
Perfection is the enemy of progress.
Make a different choice where you can. Itâs all good.
Also their profit margins on their consumer store are razor thin. So itâs not like ordering a toilet seat is making bezos rich. Itâs AWS where they make their money. And some estimates have that as like 70 percent of the Internet. You canât really boycott that.
I understand and agree to some extent. Still good to say it tho, doesnât really sound like barking.
Did Bob Loblaws update his law blog?
Itâs a Canadian national super market chain/brand that owns a ton of supermarkets here.
Amazon is shit now you can find stuff cheaper only âproblemâ is you donât get it in âtwo* days.
I remember watching an old Tim Allen stand-up set, he was talking about ordering a bench grinder from the Sears catalog. âSix to eight weeks laterâ it arrived.
I sometimes think about how we got here. How now this has become some peopleâs only option. Amazon banked on people relying on them and scooped up market share, and destroyed small businesses so they became the only option. People donât even look for alternatives or discover businesses around them anymore. I had to help a few friends understand this. I had a friend buying toilet paper from Amazon, thatâs literally sold everywhere.
When I say donât use Amazon, itâs not to shame the people who canât, itâs to have them think of an alternative, train out their reliance. Donât continue to give Amazon that reliance.
There are not many times you need that specific obscure part, most of the time itâs things that will have alternative sources. So itâs about taking a moment to just consider.
Target Jeff Bezos because he is literally top of the list of billionaires, he does not need the money. You can use this as a measurement. Newegg is a better option. A small electronics store that delivers in your country if their brick and mortar store is not near you, even better.
And like you pointed out, perfection is the enemy of progress.
This combined with just considering if you actually need something or just want junk advertised to you. Itâs a way to break from frivolous consumption as well, which Amazon also relies on. Also consider that you donât need things this fast. I feel like Amazon broke our perception. We used to not get things delivered for up to 2 weeks and that was fine. But somehow itâs unacceptable if itâs not there the next day. Most things you buy are not emergencies. Waiting does not waste your time, your life goes on while you wait.
Use eBay.
I needed 7/16â ink ribbon for my antique Burroughs adding machine. Bought it on eBay. Order was fulfilled by Ribbons Unlimited, a small business that just sells ink ribbons for typewriters. Took a week to get it, but I wasnât in that much of a hurry.
I was buying some rolling papers. They were $10 on Amazon. I decided to check eBay, they had the same exact pack but it was $15. Decided to go with the eBay purchase to avoid Amazon. 2 days later I get an Amazon delivery. Itâs my rolling papers, shipped straight from Amazon with a $5 dollar markup going straight to the eBay seller. So not only did bezos still get his cut but i paid an extra $5 for the privilege.
Same thing applies to lots of stuff on Amazon. They are just things off of AliExpress marked up a lot.
That happens from time to time. Hell, Iâve even had that happen two weeks ago with Newegg for a rare cable I needed.
Still though, on the whole, you can get in touch with some real brick and mortar style sellers, and often times itâs cheaper. I saved like $20 on a pack of water filters for my fridge recently.
eBay abuses sellers, too.
Using Amazon , Iâd love to stop using Amazon but unfortunately amazon has killed all competing stores in my area so if I want a product thatâs more specialized than s* you would find at an old timey General Store Iâm out of luck
FYI: You are allowed to say âshitâ on the Internet.
Iâm much in the same boat and âstop using Amazonâ is a breathtakingly privileged take that really pisses me off.
I use a tts that does that by itself and you know what I meant so I donât fucking care. This one I hand typed. Donât fucking bother me about how I do or do not đđžđŹđ´đ˛đˇđ° swear thanks.
People often say to vote with your wallet, but really if you want meaningful change it has to be backed by legislation so you must vote with your vote.
Of course. Just give me an alternative that
1. gives me a definitive delivery date without excessive extra cost
2. handles returns and warranty claims at least half as smoothly
3. takes responsibility for missing deliveries
What are people ordering so much of from amazon? I apparently havenât ordered from them since late 2024, and those were a handful of small orders.
Shoes. 3d printer filament. A laptop. Occasionally some shelf storage food. A thermal camera. Soldering iron and solder. Cast iron skillet. Pretty much everything that i would like to buy that isnt carried by my local grocery store and is also the only non gas station within 45 minutes of me. Thats assuming the weather is nice and i can actually drive my car the 45 minutes through the half that is pretty decent for roads, and the other half that will blow my tires and bottom out my car if i so much and blink or have a little bit of fog. Rain basically means i update my will before i go for a drive. The other 45 minutes back in fun too.
Well returns have gone to shit on Amazon. Now they charge you most of the time.
Delivery date not so much now they are charging for faster delivery on some items.
The only two choices where I live are Amazon or Target. I despise Amazon, but I despise Target more because of their betrayal to the LGBTQ+ community. So, while Iâm not happy about it, I choose the lesser of two evils (to me) and use Amazon.
So you canât purchase stuff from Walmart, Costco or any online store just Amazon?
Stop living somewhere with choices!!
While I agree that people should not use Amazon, thereâs a lot of places that it is one of the only options people have to get these types of products because of companies like Amazon, Walmart, target and all the other big retailers that have gone and completely destroyed small and local businesses in alot of communities. Some donât even have a Walmart or Target anymore purely because they came and destroyed everything realized they couldnât make enough money so they shut em down.
Yes but if you can buy off Amazon an online store you can buy from another online store. So saying itâs the only choice is false.
Are you sure? Your loved ones donât need one, holidays are soon.
I recently bought a washing machine, and not even 2 days later the same website sens me an ad email with 5 other washing machine models that may interest meâŚ
itâs like they use Youtubeâs algorithm. Sure, the last 15 minute planetary astronomy video was cool, Iâll watch another.
Doesnât work as well with material goods.
âLetâs make AI do everything even though it has an IQ of like 40â - every giant company rn
nah, targeted advertisements were like that for a long time. check the date, its 2018
Look, most toilets come with seats. Amazon knows that your fat ass broke one, the cheap shit one you just bought isnât gonna be as good a the OEM one.
Youâll be back
Alternately: the mechanism to soft-close the lid fails after a few years.
If I lived by myself, it wouldnât be an issue since I have no trouble gently lowering the lid. But alas, I do not live alone and am thus stuck resorting to mechanical fixes rather than behavioral ones.
Thatâs why I just put em in a subscription, now I donât have to worry about it.
Similar story happened to me literally yesterday. Wanted a new vacuum, saw that a construction store chain that has a store nearby has some on offer, research them for a while on my phone, go buy it, use it.
Then later, I get ads for that exact model and some others from that exact store on my phone while browsing for something completely unrelated.
Yeah, not system can know that I already bought something offline, but stillâŚ
Google cannot wanted to not sure where it landed. They wanted credit card records so they could see who purchased what. I think they did do the deal.
Not a loo seat aficionado?
Get on Lee Mackâs level.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsO7PQPHkAA
My girlfriend likes to look at weird shit on my amazon account and now I have to be careful browsing in public or at/for work. Most recently she searched for stripper shoes.
You know you can link accounts as family to share prime right? You donât need to let her on yours. I think itâs a limit of two âadultsâ.
I got an email a few days ago that they were disabling mine, now I would have to buy my own prime in addition to my wifeâs. I simply decided not to use Amazon anymore.
All that money, all those algorithms and machine learning⌠and this is the best they can do?
Or YouTube recommending me videos in Arabic, thinking that maybe I happened to learn the language.
Are these the same tech giants that supposedly want to solve all of humanityâs problems with AGI in under 2 years from now?
Amazon is demonstrably proficient at driving sales through targeted advertising. They practically invented it. One anecdotal counter-example doesnt outweigh that.
I should have known this thread would become toxic on Lemmy. Now I have another keyword I have to filter.
I love the concept of Lemmy and fediverse, but God Iâm getting exhausted with the constantly sanctimonious people.
Itâs my number one reason here for abandoning a thread by far.
Iâm not really seeing any toxicity. Maybe my blocklist is better curated?
Sure. Or maybe you have a different tolerance. Either way, I dont care. I just expect I wont see the next Amazon thread on Lemmy. Because Lemmy is incapable of discussing the topic in a way I want to engage.
I am not here for an endless flood of negativity and doomerism. When I see it, I block what I think is necessary. I use keyword filters, user blocks, community blocks or occasionally the entire instance.
Thatâs great. Itâs a modern day necessity to shield oneself from the full brunt of social media, as it can be very unhealthy.
Ironically, it was a comment on Lemmy that helped me think about it differently. (I already avoid all other social media.)
Healthy, well-adjusted people do not spend time or mental energy on negative things they cannot control, especially those which are not directly effecting them.
They must be thinking of this person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2b-wTJ8x3E
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I can understand Amazon or other online stores for some things but toilet seats?
Come on people. At a physical store you can actually touch a toilet seat and know what it feels like. I guarantee no one needs a particular brand of toilet seat. Also, toilets seats are relatively dense. Itâs environmentally unfriendly to have them shipped home.
This applies to many products.
No, having a dedicated delivery vehicle that drops off hundreds of packages in one trip is waaaaaaay more environmentally friendly than you driving your personal vehicle to and from the store for just one item.
Waiting for a toilet seat to be delivered is really more efficient than getting one in the mean time while youâre already away from home in your car? Or out to dinner near the home store?
Only IF you drive and itâs the only thing you go shopping for and the only reason to drive.
If you really canât plan your shopping trips efficiently then, maybe.
Walk.
Bike.
Stop on the way home from work.
I know it is hard to imagine other people with lives different than yours, but do try. It might help you understand why they might make choices different from yours.
With all due kindness: You need to check your privilege, friend.
what a shittake
people donât necessarily go to buy single stuff off the store, do you? With your argument, why not let Amazon send you rations of everything instead of anyone ever learning to cook, drive, learn a skill, fix stuff, or do anything for themselves.
is it going to to be more efficient to go to store with a list and find things you like/prefer than getting it hauled from wherever their stock is located, packaged with tons of plastic and then possibly having to return it back if you donât like how it feels/looks/works/breaks down?
sO eCo-FriEnDLy and eFfICiEnT
Hum? This is about ads showing the thing you already bought, not about toilet seat delivery.